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against · Aug 05, 2006, 09:34 PM // 21:34

What is your definition of a pefect item? An item with Req. 7-8 and max inherent mods (ex: 15^50) or an item of any req. with max inherent mods?

I must know what the people think to settle a debate! That's why I'm asking the high-end traders. :X

Toilet Monster · Aug 05, 2006, 09:42 PM // 21:42

most times its called 'quite perfect' when it has req. 7-8-9, and a perf dmg mod.. the kind of skins are also very important, cheap skins like a gladius won't be high-end.
oh i bid 1g on ur hairdo.. its awesome

Getsuga · Aug 05, 2006, 09:46 PM // 21:46

I bid 2g on your sig, Toilet.

But, a "perfect" item generally constitutes these: req 7-9, perfect inherent damage mod (generally >50/stance/enchant), and sometimes includes "perfect" mods, lots of people like sundering/fort, although they're not too great.

Lord Darkforge · Aug 05, 2006, 09:49 PM // 21:49

A real perfect item is either req 7 or 8
Perfect damage mod.
In some cases, perfect external mods

EZE · Aug 05, 2006, 09:58 PM // 21:58

yeah.....a perfect item to me is either req 7 8 or 9 with a perfect dmg mod 15^50 +15% dmg - 5 energy...some other ppl think a perfect weapon is the req 7 8 or 9 the dmg mod and perfect mods such as +30health and 20/20 sundering

JPT1 · Aug 05, 2006, 10:06 PM // 22:06

whats a perfect eternal shield like?

Nexium · Aug 05, 2006, 10:55 PM // 22:55

req7-9 30hp always -2dmg i stance
45hp(stance) -2dmg (stance

Insuscient Ranger · Aug 05, 2006, 11:27 PM // 23:27

perfect will be:

Req 7
15% UNCONDITIONAL
20/20
+30

Like any weapon like that :P

schenksta · Aug 06, 2006, 12:13 AM // 00:13

a perfect item is one with perfect inherent mods regarless of req or added on mods... and just because you say please dont close doesnt mean the admins wont close this and ban you

Foe · Aug 06, 2006, 12:22 AM // 00:22

perfect=req8 w/ perf dmg mod...req 7 swords and shields...well there req 7.
As far as it concerns trading any way..No a req 8 15^50 Fell isnt "perfect" but that's the term used to describe it...req 9 no way.. 1 trader says 2 another "just picked up perfect fell" the assumption is req 8 15^50 if it were req 7 the owner would absolutley refer 2 it as req 7 not perfect" Ha!, just grabbed a req 7 15^50 Gothic Sword"

Edit: thats warrior stuff though, req 10 20/20 Firestaff most ppl wouldnt disagree if it were refered 2 as perfect..req not really issue for most caster stuff its the cast,recharge,energy..etc mods mostly

Its slang not a literal discription

eternal pho · Aug 06, 2006, 01:50 AM // 01:50

Yeah a Req. 7 is like impossible to get, so you won't be seein these around.

wilderness · Aug 06, 2006, 01:55 AM // 01:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by eternal pho

Yeah a Req. 7 is like impossible to get, so you won't be seein these around.

Not impossible. I have a req7 15^50 Brute Sword . And there are a few req7 perfects floating around the forum atm.

When people say perfect, it generally means req8 15^50 with perfect prefix/suffix. When it's req7, it's just req 7. You'll find people will make that pretty clear.

Insuscient Ranger · Aug 06, 2006, 01:59 AM // 01:59

Wilderness may i see the req 7 15^50 Brute? I have been looking for one and have never seen one. Also Are you Selling?

wilderness · Aug 06, 2006, 02:12 AM // 02:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Insuscient Ranger

Wilderness may i see the req 7 15^50 Brute? I have been looking for one and have never seen one. Also Are you Selling?

Not selling atm, but you may see, sure. I'll be ig in half an hour. Add me

Kojaks Shadow · Aug 06, 2006, 02:15 AM // 02:15

I agree. Good issue to bring up to. It annoys the hell out of me, seeing people advertise items as perfect. That carry req's of 9,10,11, and 12.

req8 or below. 15^50. Core stats for perfect.

A shield, dual moded, Highest dmg reduction or health boost in their class. Whether it be hexed, stance, enchantment, or a percentage. Anything less, is never perfect.

I see way too many people advertising perfects around here, that are anything but.

Insuscient Ranger · Aug 06, 2006, 02:31 AM // 02:31

K will do :P

That Warrior Guyy · Aug 06, 2006, 10:01 AM // 10:01

alot of people have their own definition of perfect. so just to tie it in all together... i guess... anything that is ideal

Pesi · Aug 06, 2006, 11:11 AM // 11:11

A perfect items is with, for staffs two perfect base mods, 10/10, or 20/20 same as req. melee weaponds is whenever its max % on the base mod. 15% vs. hexed foes is perfect but its still crap. There is alot of diffrent ways how too see a perfect item. This is how for me. ( Will i get banned for No Bid/No Post now? )

Bongo · Aug 06, 2006, 12:52 PM // 12:52

req 8 15>50 Zealous +30Hp

Riken Chrono · Aug 06, 2006, 02:11 PM // 14:11

well if its perfect, it should be the lowest req possible or else if ist higher, theres something thats better so cant be perfect. no matter what the mods are, as long as they're max

Aug 05, 2006, 09:34 PM // 21:34	#1
against Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: Edible Granite Pencil [yumy] Profession: R/	Question. Please don't close this immediately. What is your definition of a pefect item? An item with Req. 7-8 and max inherent mods (ex: 15^50) or an item of any req. with max inherent mods? I must know what the people think to settle a debate! That's why I'm asking the high-end traders. :X Last edited by against; Aug 05, 2006 at 09:37 PM // 21:37..

Aug 05, 2006, 09:42 PM // 21:42	#2
Toilet Monster Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2006 Guild: Army of Snowmen [Xmas]	most times its called 'quite perfect' when it has req. 7-8-9, and a perf dmg mod.. the kind of skins are also very important, cheap skins like a gladius won't be high-end. oh i bid 1g on ur hairdo.. its awesome Last edited by Toilet Monster; Aug 05, 2006 at 09:52 PM // 21:52..

Aug 06, 2006, 12:22 AM // 00:22	#10
Foe Banned Join Date: Mar 2006	perfect=req8 w/ perf dmg mod...req 7 swords and shields...well there req 7. As far as it concerns trading any way..No a req 8 15^50 Fell isnt "perfect" but that's the term used to describe it...req 9 no way.. 1 trader says 2 another "just picked up perfect fell" the assumption is req 8 15^50 if it were req 7 the owner would absolutley refer 2 it as req 7 not perfect" Ha!, just grabbed a req 7 15^50 Gothic Sword" Edit: thats warrior stuff though, req 10 20/20 Firestaff most ppl wouldnt disagree if it were refered 2 as perfect..req not really issue for most caster stuff its the cast,recharge,energy..etc mods mostly Its slang not a literal discription Last edited by Foe; Aug 06, 2006 at 12:30 AM // 00:30..

Aug 05, 2006, 09:46 PM // 21:46	#3
Getsuga Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2005	I bid 2g on your sig, Toilet. But, a "perfect" item generally constitutes these: req 7-9, perfect inherent damage mod (generally >50/stance/enchant), and sometimes includes "perfect" mods, lots of people like sundering/fort, although they're not too great.

Aug 05, 2006, 09:49 PM // 21:49	#4
Lord Darkforge Jungle Guide Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Lions Arch District 1 - Storage Under The Tree Guild: [Fear] The Undead Alliance [Fear] Profession: W/Mo	A real perfect item is either req 7 or 8 Perfect damage mod. In some cases, perfect external mods

Aug 05, 2006, 09:58 PM // 21:58	#5
EZE Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: In da hood Guild: Angelic Order	yeah.....a perfect item to me is either req 7 8 or 9 with a perfect dmg mod 15^50 +15% dmg - 5 energy...some other ppl think a perfect weapon is the req 7 8 or 9 the dmg mod and perfect mods such as +30health and 20/20 sundering

Aug 05, 2006, 10:06 PM // 22:06	#6
JPT1 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Lion's Arch	whats a perfect eternal shield like?

Aug 05, 2006, 10:55 PM // 22:55	#7
Nexium Krytan Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006	req7-9 30hp always -2dmg i stance 45hp(stance) -2dmg (stance

Aug 05, 2006, 11:27 PM // 23:27	#8
Insuscient Ranger Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Pluto-We miss you Guild: Biscuit of Dewm [MEEP] Profession: R/	perfect will be: Req 7 15% UNCONDITIONAL 20/20 +30 Like any weapon like that :P

Aug 06, 2006, 12:13 AM // 00:13	#9
schenksta Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2006 Profession: W/	a perfect item is one with perfect inherent mods regarless of req or added on mods... and just because you say please dont close doesnt mean the admins wont close this and ban you

Aug 06, 2006, 01:50 AM // 01:50	#11
eternal pho Banned Join Date: Nov 2005 Guild: The Licious Fame Farmers {TLG} Profession: W/E	Yeah a Req. 7 is like impossible to get, so you won't be seein these around.

Aug 06, 2006, 01:59 AM // 01:59	#13
Insuscient Ranger Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Pluto-We miss you Guild: Biscuit of Dewm [MEEP] Profession: R/	Wilderness may i see the req 7 15^50 Brute? I have been looking for one and have never seen one. Also Are you Selling?

Aug 06, 2006, 02:15 AM // 02:15	#15
Kojaks Shadow Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Australia Guild: We Are In [AmOR] Profession: R/	I agree. Good issue to bring up to. It annoys the hell out of me, seeing people advertise items as perfect. That carry req's of 9,10,11, and 12. req8 or below. 15^50. Core stats for perfect. A shield, dual moded, Highest dmg reduction or health boost in their class. Whether it be hexed, stance, enchantment, or a percentage. Anything less, is never perfect. I see way too many people advertising perfects around here, that are anything but.

Aug 06, 2006, 02:31 AM // 02:31	#16
Insuscient Ranger Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Pluto-We miss you Guild: Biscuit of Dewm [MEEP] Profession: R/	K will do :P

Aug 06, 2006, 10:01 AM // 10:01	#17
That Warrior Guyy Banned Join Date: May 2006 Guild: [None] Profession: W/	alot of people have their own definition of perfect. so just to tie it in all together... i guess... anything that is ideal

Aug 06, 2006, 11:11 AM // 11:11	#18
Pesi Jungle Guide Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Droknars Forge Guild: No Goats No Glory Profession: Me/	A perfect items is with, for staffs two perfect base mods, 10/10, or 20/20 same as req. melee weaponds is whenever its max % on the base mod. 15% vs. hexed foes is perfect but its still crap. There is alot of diffrent ways how too see a perfect item. This is how for me. ( Will i get banned for No Bid/No Post now? )

Aug 06, 2006, 12:52 PM // 12:52	#19
Bongo Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London, UK Guild: In Soviet Russia Altar Caps You [CCCP]	req 8 15>50 Zealous +30Hp

Aug 06, 2006, 02:11 PM // 14:11	#20
Riken Chrono Desert Nomad Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: around the corner and up the block Guild: Hero	well if its perfect, it should be the lowest req possible or else if ist higher, theres something thats better so cant be perfect. no matter what the mods are, as long as they're max